5150 Fighter Command Newbie Questions

[pronz72]

Dears,
I’m new to the world of 5150, I got a copy of Fighter Command and finally I was able to get a couple of games.
I’m usually quite comfortable with the reaction mechanisms, and I thoroughly enjoy the rule sets that foresee them, but I have to say that the In Sight tests got me a bit uncertain about how to manage some situations. 
Here are a few examples of situations I found a bit difficult :

1 - Lt. Killy is flying his fighter during the movement phase and gets within 5” of Scratch, an Hishen pilot. Killy moves another inch and then they both test for In Sight. They get the same successes and shot each other at the same time. At the end of this exchange of fire they are still healthy and in control of their craft. They both should test reaction for received fire, but when?
A - First Killy completes his movement and then they test reaction?
B - they first test and then, if possible, Killy completes his movement?
C - Killy completes his movement and they don’t take the Received Fire because it would reaction fire to a reaction?

2 - Lt. Killy is flying his fighter during the movement phase and gets within 5” of Scratch, the Hishen pilot. This time Killy is tailing Scratch so that he is outside of the 180^ forward arc. Is the In Sight test triggered even if Scratch has no line of sight?
I’d say that Killy moves another inch and then he automatically succeeds in the test and decides to fire at Scratch. Now Killy compl his movement. If Scratch is still alive he will test for Receiving Fire and, if successful he could fire back or Dogfight…

Thank you for your help

[easyeight]

Hi,
Let me see if I can help.

Q1. At the end of this exchange of fire they are still healthy and in control of their craft. They both should test reaction for received fire, but when?
A1. After both sides shoot, both sides make a Received Fire test and immediately apply the results. This could lead to more combat, Dogfighting, trying to move away, etc.

Q2 - Lt. Killy is flying his fighter during the movement phase and gets within 5” of Scratch, the Hishen pilot. This time Killy is tailing Scratch so that he is outside of the 180^ forward arc. Is the In Sight test triggered even if Scratch has no line of sight?
A2 - Lt. Killy only makes the In Sight test, the Hishen scores an automatic zero successes and does not get to act. Then apply the results -- with bad luck, Lt. Killy could screw up with zero successes and blew his chance at a kill shot. If still alive, the Hishen will make a Received Fire test.

Cheers!

[pronz72]

Dec 6, 2021 2:13:29 GMT easyeight said:

Hi,
Let me see if I can help.

Q1. At the end of this exchange of fire they are still healthy and in control of their craft. They both should test reaction for received fire, but when?
A1. After both sides shoot, both sides make a Received Fire test and immediately apply the results. This could lead to more combat, Dogfighting, trying to move away, etc.

Q2 - Lt. Killy is flying his fighter during the movement phase and gets within 5” of Scratch, the Hishen pilot. This time Killy is tailing Scratch so that he is outside of the 180^ forward arc. Is the In Sight test triggered even if Scratch has no line of sight?
A2 - Lt. Killy only makes the In Sight test, the Hishen scores an automatic zero successes and does not get to act. Then apply the results -- with bad luck, Lt. Killy could screw up with zero successes and blew his chance at a kill shot. If still alive, the Hishen will make a Received Fire test.

Cheers!

[pronz72]

Dec 6, 2021 2:13:29 GMT easyeight said:

Hi,

thank you a lot!



Q1. At the end of this exchange of fire they are still healthy and in control of their craft. They both should test reaction for received fire, but when?

A1. After both sides shoot, both sides make a Received Fire test and immediately apply the results. This could lead to more combat, Dogfighting, trying to move away, etc.

So it is possible to have a second go at shooting dogfighting, ok

Q1.2. - Shouldn't Killy complete his movement before having the Reaction tests? Should the Reaction follow the same priority as the In Sight test?



Q2 - Lt. Killy is flying his fighter during the movement phase and gets within 5” of Scratch, the Hishen pilot. This time Killy is tailing Scratch so that he is outside of the 180^ forward arc. Is the In Sight test triggered even if Scratch has no line of sight?

A2 - Lt. Killy only makes the In Sight test, the Hishen scores an automatic zero successes and does not get to act. Then apply the results -- with bad luck, Lt. Killy could screw up with zero successes and blew his chance at a kill shot. If still alive, the Hishen will make a Received Fire test.



Q3 - Suppose that Killy is already within 5" and LOS of Scratch when is his turn in the movement phase: is an In Sight test required? Or In Sight is triggered only when you see something that, before moving, was yet unseen?



Q4 - Lt. killy rolled a very bad 6 as initiative, so he is not going to have any actions. He is entitled to move thought. Is it then possible that even an "inactive" pilot could trigger an In Sight?



Cheers!

[Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy]

If you want a smoother game for Fighter Combat, try 5150 Fighter Pilot. No movement and much smoother. Also, a Deal of the Day today.