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Post by blacksmith on May 15, 2020 9:29:11 GMT
Is there any image of them? I'd like to order some miniatures to represent them but first I need to know how they are physically.
BTW, are there any other images of Razors apart from the one in the rulebook? What's the colour of their skin, grey as Hishen? TIA
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Post by stryderg on May 15, 2020 13:23:41 GMT
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Post by blacksmith on May 15, 2020 15:44:41 GMT
Ok, thanks. I thought Ikwen were a genuine 5150 alien race. So are there only four main alien factions in 5150 apart from basics? 1- HIshen (Grath and Razor come with them) 2- Zhuh-Zhuh 3- Xeog 4- Bugs
I thought there were a few more. I remember the Drantakhs, but they weren't 5150 original. Where did the Hafers come from?
Is there any other alien faction I am missing?
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Post by atomicfloozy on May 15, 2020 18:06:28 GMT
The following races have stats in 5150 books, there are others, but these are the ones with printed stats:
Basics (including Nomads), Buardeem, Bugs, Cepgalods, Cyndee (doesn't officially exist), Drantahks, Entanobi, Fezglok, G.A.X. (Gene Altering Xenoforms), Geenx, Grath, Hishen, Hydrissians, Kabasu, Khang, Lerksah, Lycaon, Munjar, Nonne, Orabel, Quar, Razors, Retrovians, Scrunts, Smoggers, Spugs, Symons (Syn-2), Tip-Tip Glom, Vampires Stage-2, Vangore, Xenoforms, Xeog (Green & Blue), Zhuh-Zhuhs (including Muggie Zhuh-Zhuh)
There's about another dozen that are mentioned here and there, but don't have stats.
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Post by atomicfloozy on May 15, 2020 18:22:44 GMT
I should add that there is nothing wrong or prohibitive with building your own alien races. There's even a section in Back Alleys, Bright Lights which help you do so. It's really handy,,I'll take a stab at bringing it up to the No Limits series of attributes.
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Post by atomicfloozy on May 15, 2020 18:49:30 GMT
Build Your Own Alien (not official 5150 canon) - Name the Race if it doesn't have one already
- Decide if the Race is generally Agressive or Non-Agressive - or you could roll 1d6: 1-3 Agressive, 4-6 Non-Agressive
- If the figure is greater than man-size, give it the Rage attribute if Agressive, Dim if Non-Agressive *
- If the figure is less than man-size, give it the Resilient attribute if Agressive, Runt if Non-Agressive *
- Larger Races are more often found in Physical Professions
- Smaller Races are more often found in Non-Physical Professions
- If the figure is man-size, roll for a random attribute on the Attribue Table *
- Man-size Races may be found in any profession
- Bottom line is it's your game you can design a race any way you want
* You can also just choose an Attribue which best fits your concept of that Race Hope this helps.
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Post by Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy on May 15, 2020 19:35:44 GMT
Ok, thanks. I thought Ikwen were a genuine 5150 alien race. So are there only four main alien factions in 5150 apart from basics? 1- HIshen (Grath and Razor come with them) 2- Zhuh-Zhuh 3- Xeog 4- Bugs
I thought there were a few more. I remember the Drantakhs, but they weren't 5150 original. Where did the Hafers come from?
Is there any other alien faction I am missing?
Mongrats. Lycaon GAX Kabasu Entanobi Wormric Saurians Lort Stage II Vampires Hafers are a security bot
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Post by craigt13 on May 15, 2020 20:46:56 GMT
I knew that I had seen Ikwen somewhere, but it took me a while to find them. They are in Star Army 2nd Tour.
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Post by Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy on May 15, 2020 22:06:03 GMT
Where are the Kabasu?
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Post by atomicfloozy on May 15, 2020 22:19:42 GMT
The Kabasu appear in Under a Hishen Sun. They're Rift Walkers. They only appear when double sixes are rolled on the activation dice. When doubles are rolled again on the activation dice, they phase out taking the highest Rep character with them. I'm not surprised you've forgotten them, they were rare & you wrote about them 12 years ago.
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Post by stryderg on May 16, 2020 2:48:43 GMT
Ok, thanks. I thought Ikwen were a genuine 5150 alien race. So are there only four main alien factions in 5150 apart from basics? There were the original 5150 rules with a few core races. Somewhere along the lines, Illegal Aliens supplement was printed giving stats for a lot of the miniature ranges available at the time. Then more were added with other supplements, some unique to the 5150 universe and others ported in from existing miniature ranges. I seem to remember Cephelopods, and Night Terrors (very predator-ish) from somewhere. Somebody should compile an updated supplement book.
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Post by blacksmith on May 16, 2020 8:51:11 GMT
Thank you guys and gals for all the info! But I should have explained better, sorry. What I am looking for is an original 5150 alien nation other than Hishen or Zhuh-Zhuhs. I am not interested in an alien such a Lycaon, but in alien civilizations like Spugs or Dranktahs. An original and official 5150 alien civilzation with fleets and armies and not just a few alien guys. Not a few Graths, Razors or Lycaons, but an empire of them. Is there any? Maybe Saurians? it's the first time I hear about them...
Cheers,
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Post by bigwalleye on May 16, 2020 12:25:53 GMT
If you download the 5150 map here:
drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1ijs4HkRdkN4NIFX-WJW5M0LhA46DBzsw
you will see several alien polities that span multiple systems. Saurians certainly are one. Spugs, Bugs, Wormic, Scrunts, and Drantak all seem to have organized political heirarchies, with a primary system, secondaries, and colonies. Each of these would plausibly have some sort of military. The numbers and types of systems provide a rough guide to their economic resources.
Even the Grath hold a cluster of systems, although they apparently have no multi-system political structure. Lots to choose from.
Although I really wouldn't want to take on an all-Grath army!
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Post by Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy on May 16, 2020 16:49:37 GMT
Oh the Razors are not just s few. They use the Hishen and Grath and there are tons of Grath. Razors want to slowly wear out Gaea Prime and Hishen are clone races and Grath are multiple organisms, both easy to replace.
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Post by blacksmith on May 16, 2020 17:41:27 GMT
Thanks to all for the help!
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