Amphibious Landing Questions

[fenris07]

Hey Guys, I'm attempting to do a Marine landing against the Japanese and I'm a bit confused on how i set this up.

1. Do I have sections 7,8 and 9 the water with 4,5 and 6 being the beach head where i place the 3 PEFs?  Do i set the resolved PEF units in the middle of the sections even if they are out of sight from the landing or in sight and preferably in cover as close as i can to the beach?  The reason I ask is if they are in sight of my landing thats potentially going to be a hell of a lot of in sights going down when the boat ramps drop lol.

2. I rolled all three PEFs 1d6 successes which meant I had to wait till I landed but once I landed and unloaded I reached one of the PEFs.  I'm right on the other side of a ridge of it and it turned into an enemy squad with barbed wire but I'm already too close to put barbed wire down.  Should I have stopped as soon as I landed and re-rolled for the PEFs before I actually moved up on the beach?

3. How do you guys place the mines if those are rolled?  Do you pretend you don't know they are there and charge the beach straight ahead?  Also it says once you get within 6 inches you roll and if it equals as close as you are then you get hit.  So do you do your full move and where you stop if its within 6 inches it goes off or stop at the closest point during your movement and blow it?

4.  The amphibious landing says its just the means to the mission not the mission itself.  So do i act like a regular mission and put another 3 PEFs down like i would for an attack mission on top of the 3 PEFs i put down for the beach defenses?  Victory if i can break through and get my men with less casualties then I've inflicted off the other side of the table?

I just picked up the Compendium and wow does it have a lot of content and new rules and tables!  I've been a little overwhelmed trying to add all the cool new stuff so I think i'm going to have to slow down and just add one new thing at a time.  My first attempt at a beach landing was kind of all over the place so with some clarifications I hope I can clean it up and run it better this next time.  I'll write another battle report for my next run when hopefully I'm doing it right!

[fenris07]

Has anyone done any Amphibious Assaults? How did it work out for you, were the attackers repulsed back into the sea?

[easyeight]

Howdy, welcome to the NUTS Compendium!

1. Do I have sections 7,8 and 9 the water with 4,5 and 6 being the beach head where i place the 3 PEFs? Do i set the resolved PEF units in the middle of the sections even if they are out of sight from the landing or in sight and preferably in cover as close as i can to the beach? The reason I ask is if they are in sight of my landing thats potentially going to be a hell of a lot of in sights going down when the boat ramps drop lol.

I usually have 1,2,3 be water, 4, 5, 6 is the beach area, and the objectives in 7, 8, 9 guarding the exit areas from the Beach. Mostly consider the PEFs will in 7, 8, 9...and yeah...beach landings are brutal, when the ramps come down there will be lots of In Sight tests.


2. I rolled all three PEFs 1d6 successes which meant I had to wait till I landed but once I landed and unloaded I reached one of the PEFs. I'm right on the other side of a ridge of it and it turned into an enemy squad with barbed wire but I'm already too close to put barbed wire down. Should I have stopped as soon as I landed and re-rolled for the PEFs before I actually moved up on the beach?

I don't know your map/terrain set-up. As soon as you can spot a PEF, resolve it using Beach Defense table (Compendium p40). I think it's safe to consider, again terrain permitting, that any fixed defenses you roll will be spotted as you land (as your landing boats go in) so resolve them as your units hit the beach. If you Consider that on a Defended Beach assume the defender will usually try and make the best of their terrain/defenses. If there are other PEFs, and you move into one from around or through blocking terrain, you're in it as you spot it.


3. How do you guys place the mines if those are rolled? Do you pretend you don't know they are there and charge the beach straight ahead? Also it says once you get within 6 inches you roll and if it equals as close as you are then you get hit. So do you do your full move and where you stop if its within 6 inches it goes off or stop at the closest point during your movement and blow it?

Yeah, there's no way around honor system in a solo or co-op game. If mines are rolled I put out a Mines marker and as my figures move into the area I'll test. As soon as a figure enters the danger area I'll test. If a mine goes off the other figures can react to try and avoid them and will be subject to Man Down tests. Remember that mines and barbed wire would almost always be backed up by infantry and MGs, and many times these types of defenses were crafted to funnel attackers into kill zones.


4. The amphibious landing says its just the means to the mission not the mission itself. So do i act like a regular mission and put another 3 PEFs down like i would for an attack mission on top of the 3 PEFs i put down for the beach defenses? Victory if i can break through and get my men with less casualties then I've inflicted off the other side of the table?

The mission is an Attack mission, so you're facing the 3 PEFs but which are resolved using the Beach Defense table. According to an Attack Mission you can win by either defeating all the enemy forces, or exit the opposite table edge with 3/4 of your units.

Here's a Beach Landing AAR you might find useful. Happy gaming!


The Beach...


Yeah...unloading in the surf in front of an MG bunker is pretty deadly...


sbminisguy.wordpress.com/2018/08/14/two-hour-d-day-the-beach/

[fenris07]

Hey easyeight, thanks for the helpful answers and an AAR as well to show it all in action!

[easyeight]

Sure! And that unit in the photo getting his as it leaves the LC was extra unlucky -- the player only scored Pass 1 on the Beach Landing test and the boat dropped the ramp 6" from the beach and had to wade to shore under heavy MG fire. The Medic figure was *very* useful in this game!