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Post by walt on Apr 19, 2019 22:07:57 GMT
So I'm a long time WW2 buff.. Moderate boardgame enthusiast (more building than playing)
As hard as it is to believe, I recently learned of miniature wargaming. I thought it was all hex,chit and counters ala ASL.
So with this all said I'd appreciate any insight on where to start.
So it's a given I'm going with Nuts! But which do I need? Does the compendium cover everything ? Final edition rules? Do I then need scenarios?
I have zero models so which might you guys suggest?
Lastly I was considering using a US stopsign as a template for cutting panels for terrain. My thoughts were that the hexagonal shape would allow for a greater variety of randomizing terrain. (not a big deal.. I could go with several 2x4 rectangles.)
Sorry about the rambling.. Just getting the thoughts flowing
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Post by TXWargamer on Apr 19, 2019 23:13:46 GMT
So I'm a long time WW2 buff.. Moderate boardgame enthusiast (more building than playing) As hard as it is to believe, I recently learned of miniature wargaming. I thought it was all hex,chit and counters ala ASL. So with this all said I'd appreciate any insight on where to start. So it's a given I'm going with Nuts! But which do I need? Does the compendium cover everything ? Final edition rules? Do I then need scenarios? I have zero models so which might you guys suggest? Lastly I was considering using a US stopsign as a template for cutting panels for terrain. My thoughts were that the hexagonal shape would allow for a greater variety of randomizing terrain. (not a big deal.. I could go with several 2x4 rectangles.) Sorry about the rambling.. Just getting the thoughts flowing Welcome aboard! I’d start with core NUTS! and add compendium later but those two together get you all in models and minis are readily available so I’d ask what scale you like. 15mm it is really hard to beat the Flames of War platoon packs 1/72 you can pick up airfix or similar and one box per side will have you covered. 25/28 I love Perry and Warlord. A box per side and you are set but will need to assemble them paper Soldiers - junior general has tons of free sets including weapons, men, vehicles 6mm Heroics and Ross 10mm Pendraken are very nice all of these are very valid and enjoyable ways to play. If you know the way you’ll go please post and I can give more detailed ideas.
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Post by atomicfloozy on Apr 19, 2019 23:34:48 GMT
If you haven't bought a copy of the core rules, NUTS! 4th edition is the most current rule set. As John said, the Compendium & scenario books can all come later.
I guess you need to pick a couple of squads to start with. The troop choices in NUTS begins in 1944 European theater. Your choices include Americans, British, German & Russian & there are different types within each nation such as armored infantry, commandos, folks grenadiers, etc.
You need to decide what size of figures you would like to collect. There's one fellow in the DFW area who collects 54mm, several collect 28mm or 15mm. 1/72nd is basically the same as 20mm and it is also a popular option. 10mm & 6mm are also available, but tend to be more popular with the guys who do large micro-armor battles.
First, though, get the rule book to know exactly what figures to buy - you don't want to buy a specialist weapon figures, like a heavy machine gun team for example, without first buying the figures to represent the average squad.
It's best to start with a 3 ft. X 3 ft. If you have a larger table size that's ok.
Be sure to use the STOP! Boxes in the rules. They usually set up examples to help you learn the game.
I'm sure others will have even better advice, but this is what's basic.
Good gaming!
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Post by walt on Apr 20, 2019 1:14:43 GMT
Ok so I’ll grab the final edition of the rules for now..sounds good!
Not entirely sure on the miniatures . If I’m understanding correctly *any will generally work for the game it’s a matter of preference? The scale should be consistent so things look correct perspective wise? I’ll grab the rules book first then start deciding which miniatures to purchase. (Have to get armor asap as well!lol)
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Post by atomicfloozy on Apr 20, 2019 1:16:41 GMT
No, no, you want the 4th edition. The 4th edition came out after the final edition - turns out the final edition wasn't final!
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Post by walt on Apr 20, 2019 1:21:48 GMT
No, no, you want the 4th edition. The 4th edition came out after the final edition - turns out the final edition wasn't final! Ah geez ..Final it is!
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Post by infierno on Apr 20, 2019 1:36:43 GMT
If I’m understanding correctly *any will generally work for the game it’s a matter of preference? The scale should be consistent so things look correct perspective wise? Yep, exactly.
Do you live in/near a city with any board game or hobby stores? If so, your best bet is to go to one of those and have a look around. Plastic Soldiers is a great bang for your buck if you're interested in 16mm, where infantry tends to be a few centimeters tall.
If you're interested in 28mm (where infantry tends to be an inch or two tall), I think Artizan Designs is pretty good value for your money. I also really like Warlord's minis but they're a bit on the pricier side.
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Post by Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy on Apr 20, 2019 2:32:36 GMT
No, no, you want the 4th edition. The 4th edition came out after the final edition - turns out the final edition wasn't final! Ah geez ..Final it is! Yes, the gamers wanted more streamlined mechanics but keeping the results the same, so 4th Edition. NUTSUse the coupon code forum25 for 25% off, good through Sunday.
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Post by walt on Apr 20, 2019 15:11:23 GMT
Just to keep all the beginner questions in one pile I had an additional questions / thought.
When it comes to Terrain what is the general consensus regarding historic scenario vs generic landscapes?
I could see doing it either way.
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Post by Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy on Apr 20, 2019 15:21:27 GMT
Just to keep all the beginner questions in one pile I had an additional questions / thought. When it comes to Terrain what is the general consensus regarding historic scenario vs generic landscapes? I could see doing it either way. I'd go genric landscaping as you'll get more use from it.
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Post by walt on Apr 20, 2019 15:31:50 GMT
Just to keep all the beginner questions in one pile I had an additional questions / thought. When it comes to Terrain what is the general consensus regarding historic scenario vs generic landscapes? I could see doing it either way. I'd go genric landscaping as you'll get more use from it. Another notion.. I have made a few WW2 game maps using Google earth. I'm considering doing something like this.. Find a interesting Location in France on Google earth. Build the elevations with foam or similar. Then litterly paste map over terrain. Finally dress up with foliage trees grass ect.
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Post by atomicfloozy on Apr 20, 2019 15:37:26 GMT
If you do modular terrain, 95% of your modeling will be generic terrain features - woods, hedges, fields, hills, farm houses, etc. .
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Post by Srrom4 on Apr 20, 2019 18:20:26 GMT
Hi, welcome aboard, I also came from ASL, Cry havoc, etc, boardgames. If you like to paint, this is my case, I recommend 28mm figures, they look very well on the wargame table. There are many manufacturers in 28mm and 1/48 scale for vehicles, guns, accessories and terrain. Maybe are a little bit expensive and take more time to build a decent platoon/AFV's, But it's worth it if you enjoy modeling or painting.
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Post by walt on Apr 20, 2019 18:47:32 GMT
Hey! I have found over the few years of boardgaming that I indeed do like crafting / engineering and painting more than actual gameplay. That's why when I discovered miniature wargaming recently I was quite intrigued. (especially since nuts seems to be very conducive to solo play)
I will definitely take a look at Miniatures in the scale range you mentioned. However with absolutely nothing started and so much to do I'm not sure that I might opt for a quicker build with regards to Miniatures at least at the start.
I can totally see me building a detailed map recreating a specific World War II event in the future. Along with detailed miniatures.
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Post by stevenpage on Apr 21, 2019 1:26:54 GMT
The games often are resolved so quickly, that I suggest taking the 'Combat" approach, and prepare a few 'sets' that get recycled regularly....The Street, The Hill, The Farmhouse, The Bridge......just drop the module into your generic countryside, and yell "Action!" ....This game system is a load of fun, and a real eye opener.
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