Enemy Defensive Position

[pyt]

Hey guys,

Tried my first solo game tonight with very small squads and I have a question regarding “enemy defensive position”.
So I resolved a PEF as “One Enemy Squad in Defensive Position”, do they count as “concealed” when resolving “in sight”?

Thanks,

PYT

[Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy]

Jul 18, 2019 2:33:56 GMT pyt said:

Hey guys,

Tried my first solo game tonight with very small squads and I have a question regarding “enemy defensive position”.
So I resolved a PEF as “One Enemy Squad in Defensive Position”, do they count as “concealed” when resolving “in sight”?

Thanks,

PYT

I play it as not because they get cover. Moving the woods conceals you, but being behind tree gives you cover. Of course, if you wanted to, you could do both.

[pyt]

Jul 18, 2019 17:44:05 GMT Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy said:

Jul 18, 2019 2:33:56 GMT pyt said:

Hey guys,

Tried my first solo game tonight with very small squads and I have a question regarding “enemy defensive position”.
So I resolved a PEF as “One Enemy Squad in Defensive Position”, do they count as “concealed” when resolving “in sight”?

Thanks,

PYT

I play it as not because they get cover. Moving the woods conceals you, but being behind tree gives you cover. Of course, if you wanted to, you could do both.

Thanks.

[M4A3Crew]

I wondered about that too. I found on page 31 "When additional NP units arrive, they will deploy to the left (1 – 3) or right (4 – 6) of the units already in Defensive Positions. If the unit cannot tie into a flank, it will take up position behind the NP units already on the table."

So, basically, all a defensive position means is that if they get reinforcements in an escalating battle, the reinforcements show up near the defensive position.

Also, on page 28, "you have run into enemy forces that have taken up defensive positions in a Structure or in prepared defensive positions such as foxholes, trenches, etc."
I think if they're in foxholes, it's fair to just give the concealment.

It's nice having the PDF so I can search the book for all instances of defensive positions quickly. Hope that was helpful.

[Ed the Two Hour Wargames Guy]

Oct 16, 2019 4:00:43 GMT M4A3Crew said:

I wondered about that too. I found on page 31 "When additional NP units arrive, they will deploy to the left (1 – 3) or right (4 – 6) of the units already in Defensive Positions. If the unit cannot tie into a flank, it will take up position behind the NP units already on the table."

So, basically, all a defensive position means is that if they get reinforcements in an escalating battle, the reinforcements show up near the defensive position.  Correct, if an occupied defensive position on the table they extend it, if not they enter normally.

Also, on page 28, "you have run into enemy forces that have taken up defensive positions in a Structure or in prepared defensive positions such as foxholes, trenches, etc."
I think if they're in foxholes, it's fair to just give the concealment. That works.

It's nice having the PDF so I can search the book for all instances of defensive positions quickly. Hope that was helpful.

[fenris07]

Oct 16, 2019 4:00:43 GMT M4A3Crew said:

I wondered about that too. I found on page 31 "When additional NP units arrive, they will deploy to the left (1 – 3) or right (4 – 6) of the units already in Defensive Positions. If the unit cannot tie into a flank, it will take up position behind the NP units already on the table."

Also, on page 28, "you have run into enemy forces that have taken up defensive positions in a Structure or in prepared defensive positions such as foxholes, trenches, etc."What rule set do you have?  I have 4th edition and i don't see any of those sections in my PDF, I even did a word search.  Is that all in the Compendium?

[M4A3Crew]

To fenris07, I was playing Nuts! Big Battles and using that book, sorry.