Post by emkay1978 on Sept 27, 2021 10:59:05 GMT
Hello, after reading the Rules multiple times I still struggle with Basic Game Concepts and the general Gameflow….
(Haven’t even read the Vehicle Rules yet…)
Movement, Groups, NP Enemies and In Sight Test
After reading the rules I have no idea how the rules should be handled on the table…
I think (after reading the rules several times and some forum threads) that there is no “Group Movement” where all members of the active Group move simultaneously before In Sight Tests are resolved. Instead you activate a group, and then each member of the group is moved individually (one after another) until all are finished or an In Sight Test is triggered. Is this correct?
Seems very strange that a Fireteam is unable to advance/engage in a coordinated move….
How is this handled for NP Enemy movement? If an enemy group is on the table (via a resolved PEF) how is movement handled to attack a player group that is currently out of LOS but could be attacked after a (coordinated) move? The very first NP Enemy entering LOS would already trigger an In Sight Test while the Rest of the Enemy Group is far behind and unable to help.
I just don’t get how it possible that 2 Squads engage each other with multiple Members being able to fire if the first member moving into LOS triggers the Fire Fight…
PEF’s in Defensive Position
What is a defensive position in Game Terms ? If a PEF already is behind a Stonewall / Fence / Bocage etc or in a wood when it is resolved does this count as defensive position or do I have to place some kind of Trenches, Sandbags etc…
If there is a PEF which moved and is on an open Road or behind a bocage / Fence etc. Can it still be in a defensive Position or a building? Do I just place a Building or defensive Postion in the middle of the Road or behind the Bocage? Can it appear out of nowhere even if my squad had LOS to the Position before… Doesn’t this lead to very strange and unrealistic Situations? (Buildings appearing out of nowhere or in very strange Locations, Buildings or fortified Positions moving into LOS of my squad)
PEF Movement
Do PEF’s always use their full movement or can they move shorter to get or remain in cover ?
NP PATROL REACTION
„… withdraws from the table back the way they entered.!” How is this possible? PEF’s are directly placed onto the Board in a Section or in a Building. They don’t enter the board via a table edge…
WHERE REINFORCEMENTS ARRIVE
(Haven’t even read the Vehicle Rules yet…)
Movement, Groups, NP Enemies and In Sight Test
After reading the rules I have no idea how the rules should be handled on the table…
I think (after reading the rules several times and some forum threads) that there is no “Group Movement” where all members of the active Group move simultaneously before In Sight Tests are resolved. Instead you activate a group, and then each member of the group is moved individually (one after another) until all are finished or an In Sight Test is triggered. Is this correct?
Seems very strange that a Fireteam is unable to advance/engage in a coordinated move….
How is this handled for NP Enemy movement? If an enemy group is on the table (via a resolved PEF) how is movement handled to attack a player group that is currently out of LOS but could be attacked after a (coordinated) move? The very first NP Enemy entering LOS would already trigger an In Sight Test while the Rest of the Enemy Group is far behind and unable to help.
I just don’t get how it possible that 2 Squads engage each other with multiple Members being able to fire if the first member moving into LOS triggers the Fire Fight…
I know that after triggering the Insight Test all members of the active group may move an additional 2". But is this really the only way to engage with multiple Members of a group? And how is this applied to the NP Enemies when they are the active Group.... This would force me to play both sides like a real player instead of letting the game AI handle the NP Enemies....
There are contradicting Answeres in the forum:
twohourwargames.proboards.com/thread/724/group-firing (Group Movement Possible)
twohourwargames.proboards.com/thread/941/newbie-pef-resolution (each figure is moved individually)
What is a defensive position in Game Terms ? If a PEF already is behind a Stonewall / Fence / Bocage etc or in a wood when it is resolved does this count as defensive position or do I have to place some kind of Trenches, Sandbags etc…
If there is a PEF which moved and is on an open Road or behind a bocage / Fence etc. Can it still be in a defensive Position or a building? Do I just place a Building or defensive Postion in the middle of the Road or behind the Bocage? Can it appear out of nowhere even if my squad had LOS to the Position before… Doesn’t this lead to very strange and unrealistic Situations? (Buildings appearing out of nowhere or in very strange Locations, Buildings or fortified Positions moving into LOS of my squad)
Group Size (and Grenades)
If multiple members of my Squad are positioned in a way that they COULD form a Group, can i still decide and activate them as multiple smaller Groups or alone? If the latter is possible does this mean every group can potentially throw a Grenade?
Active Fire
If a group triggered an In Sight Test with an enemy Group that resulted in a Shootout -> does this count as Active Fire if
a) my (active) Group won the In Sight Test and fired
b) my (active) Group lost the In Sight Test but returned Fire
Or can my (active) Group still use an action to active Fire the enemy Group (if some members of both groups are still in LOS) ?
Return Fire Example Page 27
Why do the Germans only use 2D6 each when firing with SMG's?
Do PEF’s always use their full movement or can they move shorter to get or remain in cover ?
„… withdraws from the table back the way they entered.!” How is this possible? PEF’s are directly placed onto the Board in a Section or in a Building. They don’t enter the board via a table edge…
Where do Enemy Reinforcements (NP Enemies) arrive? The table seems to only cover Reinforcements for the Player. And again if the enemy did not move onto the Board but was spawned via PEF -> from which side to Reinforcements for NPE come onto the table...
Rally / Recover
Is it possible during a single Activation of a Group that they are rallied by the Leader and then Recover?
Sorry for the wall of text, but I'm really confused...
Best Regards
Markus